Plato's Cave

Stranger: so you like plato?

You: yes

Stranger: what do you think of his allegory of the cave

Stranger: do you agree with it?

You: awesome

You: which part

Stranger: the whole thesis

Stranger: if you accept one part you kind of have to accept the whole thing

You: explain it on how you interpreted it

Stranger: do you know what I'm talking about?

You: yes I do

Stranger: I'm talking about the idea that some people are meant to see the world for how it truly is

Stranger: while some people are destined to stay in the cave

Stranger: and essentially be sheep

Stranger: this fate is predetermined and nothing can change it

Stranger: what do you think?

You: then no

You: I don't like how you interpreted it as predetermined

Stranger: that's how plato wrote it

Stranger: It's not really up for interpretation

You: ha, it is though

Stranger: some people have the ability to rise out of the cave, while others get drug down and killed

You: but I'm not going to debate that point--too tired to care that much

Stranger: the whole allegory is founded on the belief that it is predetermined

Stranger: otherwise it is just about enlightenment

Stranger: and doesn't tie in with the rest of the republic

You: good point

Stranger: he writes about how the division of classes is predetermined, how people have different 'metals' within that decide there class

Stranger: plato definitely believed in predetermined fate

You: ok, I am rusty then

Stranger: I just got done with the most bullshit class in history on it

You: lol

Stranger: I'm fairly certain my professor was clinically insane haha

Stranger: if a man can quote the entire republic from memory he has a problem

You: that's pretty badass

Stranger: it's cool, until a 50 minute lecture feels like it lasts for 3 hours

Stranger: I like him a lot

Stranger: he just has a love affair with philosophy haha

Stranger: are you in university?

You: uwplatt.edu

You: what's your major?

Stranger: Political Science

Stranger: you?

You: electrical engineering

Stranger: damn

Stranger: I thought about engineering

Stranger: then I took a high level math class

Stranger: I rethought engineering

You: which one?

Stranger: some linear theoretical bullshit

You: ha--I'm only as far as Calc II

Stranger: one of the ones after calc2

Stranger: do you like it?

You: I love it, just my prof was a super tough grader

Stranger: that's not always bad

Stranger: its good you love it

Stranger: my suitemate is a physics major

Stranger: I was reading some of his homework

Stranger: His classroom is on the 6th floor

Stranger: I swear to god if I had that homework I'd throwmyself from that 6th floor window

Stranger: physics and engineering should be on floors 1 and 2

You: haha

Stranger: I just have a passion for political science

You: what are you going to use it for?

Stranger: I'm either going to join the military or go to grad school at the American University of Beirut or Tel Aviv University

Stranger: then join the military

Stranger: I haven't decided yet

Stranger: you?

You: electrical engineer

Stranger: ha private firm or something else?

You: I don't really know

Stranger: you have time to figure it out

Stranger: so why did you have plato set as an interest?

You: I enjoy philosophy