Saturday, November 24, 2018

Need basic infrastructure

You both like Debate.
You: Hello. I'm Adam. Here to argue or just chat.
Stranger: Yo, Aden, same. Anyting in particular you'd want to debate.
You: Depends
You: Where are you from?
Stranger: Canada.
You: US
You: So as individuals we have time or money, what is the best way to lessen absolute poverty (abroad)
You: i.e., marginally
Stranger: Hm, do you mean whether it's better to invest time, or money?
You: Um, sure. I think it's more impact for me to use my income rather than volunteer
You: It's just to get the ball rolling really
Stranger: Okay, well I think it depends on what you spend your money or time on, obviously. Education has proben to be one of the most efficient ways to decrease poverty in any third world country.
You: Absolutely
You: And deworming initiatives for children allow them to do better in school
Stranger: Hm, here's something I've been considering relating to this, how AI could be used within education.
Stranger: I think that developing AI to help within education could greatly reduce costs in lowering bureaucracy
You: AI in what way?
Stranger: In the machine learning way, neural networks and the such. A good example is DeepMind's AlphaZero.
You: But isn't that just for games?
You: I still don't get how AI factors in
Stranger: Nah, not really. It's just tested in games because they're closed systems that have point systems so improvement is easy to document.
Stranger: But in theory it should work for pretty much any closed system, as long as you plug in the rules to the system.
You: Again, how does that factor into education?
Stranger: Well in theory you could vastly reduce the need for teachers to grade papers or assignments, the program could read through it and give it an automatic mark in comparison to a benchmark.
You: Um, you don't need AI for that.
You: Online quizzes already have automatic grading.
You: Are we on a tangent
You: unrelated to the developing world?
Stranger: Yeah, but those are often multiple choice or single word answer. I'm saying an entire paper could be graded efficiently.
You: I hope you realize that the developing world does not have computers in the first place
You: A primary school in Ghana I know has one.
You: But what you're suggesting is not really viable
Stranger: Yes, I do. But the internet is becoming more and more available as well as technology being produced at a more efficient rate. Of course this is a suggestion more made for once an initial infrastructure has been laid out.
You: I don't think that will happen in our lifetimes.
Stranger: Eh, that's being a bit downtrodden, no? Look at the rate in which we're able to produce things nowadays, I think the only real issue is how to make it profitable to help out the less developed areas of the world.
You: From what I know, it's realistic.
You: People going to free primary school do not have money to buy a bunch of computers
Stranger: True, that's why I said you just have to find some way to make it profitable to help out these places, one way I could think to make it profitable.
You: It's not profitable though
You: It's not a consumer good.
Stranger: I think you can design ways for it to be, for example in exchange for the assistance of helping develop education in x place, you may start a solar farm of x size here.
You: Nope, that definitely would not work
Stranger: Perhaps not, but space is a commodity that most developed countries need, especially some place like China.
You: One, that's vaguely simiar to what the US gov't tried implementing in Haiti. Two, they don't need a solar farm.
Stranger: Power generation is useful for pretty much everybody, especially if you sell it back to the community where it's located.
You: They don't need power though. They need extremely basic infrastructure like roads

Vegetarian

You both like vegetarian.
You: Hello. I'd like to argue something. Or why are you here?
Stranger: I like a good argument haha
You: Great
You: Why are you vegetarian?
Stranger: Because I don't want to eat as many animals as I can avoid in my life. I've butchered animals and I don't like it. If I don't have a heart to do it, then why have someone else do it? It's also better for the Earth.
Stranger: Monocropping is bad enough without doing it to raise cows, pigs, and chickens.
Stranger: How are you, by the way?
You: I'm good
Stranger: Awesome, was my answer sufficient to satiate you?
Stranger: You said argue, so what point do you want me to learn?
You: I need a 10 min break
You: sorry, please wait
Stranger: That's fine
Stranger: I'm just watching Joe Rogan anyways Haha
Stranger: So what did you want to argue? We could just talk about it like two people, we don't need to be throwing other people's opinions or sources around
You: Ok, so I came back
You: and there's this idiot trying to argue against veganism
You: but now he just stopped
Stranger: Ah okay
You: and his reply is mere apathy
You: =)
Stranger: Interesting
Stranger: Yeah every belief system or anything in life has extremists
You: He's the middle though
You: I mean
You: He starts shooting in the dark
You: And then once he hears my argument
You: He's like, "I really don't care."
Stranger: What are your ideas?
You: lol
You: about veganism?
Stranger: Or vegetarianism. You tried talking about it earlier
Stranger: Or what are your opinions
You: suffering
You: unnecessary suffering
You: of certain animals
You: like dairy cows and chickens
Stranger: Okay, why?
You: why what?
Stranger: You aren't formulating an argument or making any sense.
You: I usually argue for veganism based on certain animal's living conditions in the US.
You: i.e., suffering, not slaughter
Stranger: The only thing that's acceptable to me is regulated necessary hunting for food.
Stranger: I'm not a big supporter of animal farming.
You: ya
You: Yesterday some dude was trying to argue against veganism
You: he stated that crop and animal factory farming was equally bad
Stranger: It can't be equal though.
Stranger: That's stupid.
You: regardless
You: so I brought up the fact that for every lb of beef it takes 12 lb of crops
You: so quantitatively
You: by simple math
You: he supports veganism
You: ...he didn't get it
Stranger: A large percent of our crops go to raising animals.
Stranger: Yeah he doesn't sound very smart.
You: meh, he could've been young
Stranger: Yeah. Possibly
Stranger: I learned a lot about it in my AP environmental science class and reading about it in my free time
Stranger: Simply learning about trophic levels should be sufficient evidence for that.
You: I don't know
You: That's been a typical side remark
You: You didn't do any research!
Stranger: Lol
You: ...on some irrelevant point
You: Anyway
You: Have you found a good tasting protein mix?
You: I'm trying to find a good vanilla one
Stranger: Me? I don't take very much. My body does well with the protein I get. I take peanut butter powder but that's it
Stranger: I do armwrestling and calisthenics, so yeah. Most vanilla stuff is either soy or pea protein. Soy powder isn't my favorite
You: Ok
Stranger: Hemp is pretty nice if you can deal with the fiber haha
Stranger: Protein powders are usually expensive anyways, I like homemade seitan, it's pretty easy to make
You: Well, I like to make shakes
Stranger: Try mixing chia and flax with some hemp
You: baller
Stranger: Lol it's just good food to ingest
Stranger: I like pb powder because it's really smoothe and you can consume a lot of protein that way. Whey always tasted gross to me
Stranger: *smooth
You: I don't know anything about you really
Stranger: Yeah I'm a man. A biochemistry student
You: coolio
Stranger: Ya, some women taste like urine and malic acid. It happens
Stranger: I'm not sure if that's vegan though haha
You: hmmm
You: perhaps with non-formal situations I will bring up this joke
Stranger: Sounds like a plan
Stranger: Are you still a student?
You: sadly
Stranger: My apologies, I'm from the US btw, school sucks
You: Wisconsin
Stranger: West Virginia here
You: Groovy.
Stranger: I've never been to Wisconsin, do you like it there?
You: It's just a place
Stranger: Everywhere is unique though.
Stranger: Are you okay? You act really weird every now and then. I don't know you personally though.
You: I hope you don't mind. I have two chats open.
You: You and another.
Stranger: Tell the guy I said hi
Stranger: ðŸ˜‚
Stranger: Yeah you aren't really asking anything about me or starting conversations, or giving anything insightful. It's a bit dull, for future reference. I didn't
You: Honestly, I didn't get much sleep yesterday
You: I'm dull, ya
You: Do you have quora?
Stranger: Yeah I have quora
You: what is it?
Stranger: I mean, I know how to share it on Facebook and stuff, but my email is 
hidden
You: sharing emails never works
You: I've tried it
You: quora.com/profile/Adam-Uraynar
Stranger: Interesting last name. Are you near Sheboygan😂
You: That's where I grew up
You: 3.5 hours away now
Stranger: Awesome
Stranger: I looked at your profile and followed you by the way, you seem pretty smart, I wasn't trying to be mean earlier or anything. I just had trouble reading you. Are you a little introverted?
You: I wouldn't say so ~ ambivert
Stranger: Yeah I'm probably about the same
Stranger: Most people that are honest would say so
You: I think most people pigeonhole themselves
Stranger: Yeah I can see that
Stranger: I wasn't meaning to classify you as simply introverted earlier, just speaking about different characteristics I was picking up. People are complicated creatures with a spectrum of different personality characteristics. It would be dumb to categorize people like that.
You: I don't read too much into things, don't worry
Stranger: Who would you say is your favorite philosopher?
You: Today?
You: Peter Singer
Stranger: He's done some great work
Stranger: It's nice to see somebody like him and his views on bioethics.
You: I agree.
Stranger: I have some laboratory classes in biology, and I don't particularly care much for a lot of what's going on. Especially with how some people treat the lab animals
Stranger: Hey, we can chat some time if you'd like, I have some meditation to do before I sleep, it will take about 2 hours probably
You: where?
Stranger: Do you have any preferred social media?
Stranger: I have most lol
Stranger: I know quora links with some
You: facebook

Intro to EA

You: Hey. 23. Like discussing what to do about absolute poverty. Open to other topics too.
Stranger: What're your solutions?
You: A solution to ending all extreme/absolute poverty?
You: I did not mean that
You: Just mean doing what I can do to help
Stranger: Ah, okay
You: So depending on one's circumstances
You: it's just spending time doing certain volunteering
You: or, usually better, which charity one's money supports
You: And that's assuming one keeps their original career path
You: Because it may be better to change careers, but I just don't want to
Stranger: What do you do?
You: for my occupation or which charities I support?
Stranger: Occupation
Stranger: Well, both
You: college
You: electrical engineering
You: Against Malaria Foundation
You: or SCI
You: Although, I've supported GiveDirectly too

[Then talked about what they wanted to talk about.]

masturbate with sand paper

You both like philosophy.
You: Hello. I'm Adam. Here to argue or just chat.
Stranger: Hey adam
Stranger: do you know that guy that says
Stranger: trapped faggot dance
You: It's not a guy
You: It's a bot
Stranger: no its a real person
Stranger: I have spoken with him
Stranger: usually its only a few lines before he leaves
You: I mean, a person sets up the code
You: but at the end of the day, a bot is a bot
Stranger: i was just arguing with him
You: about?
Stranger: i was just telling him he’s crazy and he was actually responding
Stranger: its the furthest ive gotten
You: so a bot can respond to keywords you know
Stranger: im trying to see if anyone else has talked to him more in depth
Stranger: no it wasn’t a bot because he was commenting on what i said
Stranger: i said hes here every day
You: in what detail?
You: I'm pretty sure it's still a bot
Stranger: well I am sure he uses a bot
Stranger: but you can still type with the bot software
Stranger: when you want to
You: I know.
Stranger: try talking to him
You: I'm developing one myself
You: No, I have no interest
Stranger: i need to get to the source
Stranger: what u need a bot for
You: I've encountered a better program before
You: I say the same things in the beginning
You: It's a waste of time
Stranger: so why would a bot be better than copy paste if its just for the beginning
You: a bot is always better than copy/paste
You: I don't think you realize how many conversations I have here
You: hundreds
Stranger: really
Stranger: there are actually that many people worth talking to
Stranger: just on this tag?
You: no, I have several tags
Stranger: which do you like the most
You: effective altruism
Stranger: that tag has more than one person on it?
You: ha
You: very seldom
Stranger: whats your second favorite then
Stranger: I mean where u have the best conversations
You: effective altruism
You: That's the only one.
You: Do you mean the best one conversation?
You: Then I would choose 'death'
Stranger: lol
Stranger: the death tag
You: I chatted with this person from the UK that is going to die by about Christmas
You: inoperable brain tumor
Stranger: gnarly brother
Stranger: I meant which tag you generally have good conversations
You: there is no such tag
You: most conversations are shitty
Stranger: agreed
Stranger: in fact I feel worse the more time I spend here usually
You: oh, that's sad I suppose
Stranger: yeah its just satisfying in a really shitty way
Stranger: like if i could only masturbate with sand paper
You: lololol
Stranger: effective altruism
You: omg
You: that's so true!!
Stranger: do you like peter singer?